XR & JSO co-founder Roger Hallam is one of five road-blocking activists to have been given significant prisons sentences. What should we make about the whinges that these sentences are 'harsh'?
I am always fascinated at the EU telling us all that bugs should replace Beef. Then getting away with telling Ireland to cull 600,000 Cows to stop them farting the planet to boiling point.
How on earth have they not been laughed out of office?
Milliband - how do we stop this madman? It must be that he somehow gets funded for spouting the crazy crap he comes out with. A coal mine that just produces Coke for our steel industry is blocked again after going through a bureaucratic nightmare to get going, creating local jobs in Cumbria (unlike Green Energy producing virtually zero jobs) - so the Coke will have to be imported! Not very green plus our Energy Security is thrown away. Why cant we have kept our existing energy sources open until Wind and Solar was proven (although we know its the case that renewables will never work as their energy is 'not on demand' and they have never solved the storage issues.
Milliband meanwhile pretends that Renewables are cheaper! Its a scam to make elites who invest in ESG even richer by pushing the "we are all doomed narrative" to stop people complaining about the subsidies that we all have to pay and have been paying for years. High energy prices means poorer people and uncompetitive businesses. CO2 is our friend - the gas of life. These awful people have managed to demonise it.
Cressida Gethin’s weasel words to the court, “I deeply regret that this action was necessary”, is the justification of those despots the world over who cause suffering to others - from totalitarian governments to eco fascists to terrorists.
The Just Stop Oil people seem not to understand that they really mean No Modern Technology or food safety and storage, no modern medicine, climate control, transportation etc.
Speaking as a lifelong wildlife conservationist - no doubt abreacting from a youth deprived of butterflies, birds and fish by dieldrin and other wide-spectrum environmental poisons, as well as intensive land use - I nevertheless find your over-arching thesis powerful. However it makes the same mistake as XR & JSO in assuming moral righteousness. I am myself unconvinced by climate scaremongers, but respect their right to protest the actions of wider society, which they believe - however deludedly - to be causing catastrophic damage.
The real question is to what degree are they justified in disrupting the lives of others? Reciprocally, to what extent are more rational voices entitled to counter their arguments and actions? The corollary is, what sanctions should either side incur if they break the law? Compared to punishments handed out to eg thieves or sexual offenders, the sentences handed down to the XR/JSO activists are unquestionably egregious, no doubt intended to be exemplary. I cynically ascribe this to the Law's unforgiving attitude to 'property damage' as distinct from violence against the person, and fully expect the punishments to be mitigated on appeal.
Meanwhile the counter-arguments and actions taken to halt 'Net Zero' need to be stepped up, and those of us who deplore the unsustainable, costly and harmful aspects of the so-called 'Renewable Energy Strategy' must ask ourselves what measures are WE prepared to undertake to stop it?
I am always fascinated at the EU telling us all that bugs should replace Beef. Then getting away with telling Ireland to cull 600,000 Cows to stop them farting the planet to boiling point.
How on earth have they not been laughed out of office?
Milliband - how do we stop this madman? It must be that he somehow gets funded for spouting the crazy crap he comes out with. A coal mine that just produces Coke for our steel industry is blocked again after going through a bureaucratic nightmare to get going, creating local jobs in Cumbria (unlike Green Energy producing virtually zero jobs) - so the Coke will have to be imported! Not very green plus our Energy Security is thrown away. Why cant we have kept our existing energy sources open until Wind and Solar was proven (although we know its the case that renewables will never work as their energy is 'not on demand' and they have never solved the storage issues.
Milliband meanwhile pretends that Renewables are cheaper! Its a scam to make elites who invest in ESG even richer by pushing the "we are all doomed narrative" to stop people complaining about the subsidies that we all have to pay and have been paying for years. High energy prices means poorer people and uncompetitive businesses. CO2 is our friend - the gas of life. These awful people have managed to demonise it.
Cressida Gethin’s weasel words to the court, “I deeply regret that this action was necessary”, is the justification of those despots the world over who cause suffering to others - from totalitarian governments to eco fascists to terrorists.
The doctrine of the end justifies the means.
The Just Stop Oil people seem not to understand that they really mean No Modern Technology or food safety and storage, no modern medicine, climate control, transportation etc.
Speaking as a lifelong wildlife conservationist - no doubt abreacting from a youth deprived of butterflies, birds and fish by dieldrin and other wide-spectrum environmental poisons, as well as intensive land use - I nevertheless find your over-arching thesis powerful. However it makes the same mistake as XR & JSO in assuming moral righteousness. I am myself unconvinced by climate scaremongers, but respect their right to protest the actions of wider society, which they believe - however deludedly - to be causing catastrophic damage.
The real question is to what degree are they justified in disrupting the lives of others? Reciprocally, to what extent are more rational voices entitled to counter their arguments and actions? The corollary is, what sanctions should either side incur if they break the law? Compared to punishments handed out to eg thieves or sexual offenders, the sentences handed down to the XR/JSO activists are unquestionably egregious, no doubt intended to be exemplary. I cynically ascribe this to the Law's unforgiving attitude to 'property damage' as distinct from violence against the person, and fully expect the punishments to be mitigated on appeal.
Meanwhile the counter-arguments and actions taken to halt 'Net Zero' need to be stepped up, and those of us who deplore the unsustainable, costly and harmful aspects of the so-called 'Renewable Energy Strategy' must ask ourselves what measures are WE prepared to undertake to stop it?